I rather find that 21st Century and enlightened are mutually exclusive terms.

“the heart of man is desperately wicked, deceitful”

I think you know what he means.

Would you say that any ‘other’ animal can be wicked? Deceitful, yes, but only due to instinct.

**You have my email address if I can do anything.**

‘Old book’? Like ‘The origin of species’, I assume you mean?’

Thank you. Say it louder. THANK YOU! I could kiss you except that I find men disgusting, especially bearded ones in sharp hats.

Go on, indulge me, tell me how you think that failed comparison looks from my point of view (clue in the word ‘failed’) – show the world that you are not a completely solipsistic berk.

Just a few things that I find quite interesting from the above comment by English Viking:

1. Specific use of the word man, twice – Here in the 21st Century, we enlightened folk tend to use the phrase “people” or even “humanity”.

2. His god or religion is certainly not to blame for a lack of “unity”, so it *must* be the fault of “man” – Blaming his religion or a figment of his imagination is way too difficult, instead of blaming the woeful communication methods of his god, it’s human interpretaion of the message that is at fault – therefore blame humanity. This is classic sociopathic behaviour and shows psychopathy tendencies. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

3. Humanity is “wicked, deceitful” due to Biblical teaching – Viewing the world thru the prism of one, ancient, dogmatic book is foolhardy. When in doubt, *we* are to blame but his bible is never wrong – classic “cart-before-the-horse” thinking, fallacious, without logic and most certainly deluded. And yet the bible was written by humans – this is known as cognitive dissonance, a typical ego-defense mechanism deployed by theists.

4. “the heart of man is desperately wicked, deceitful” – It’s hard to know if this is meant to be taken allegorically… or literally… or metaphorically… or haphazardly… or something. But for future refererence, the heart of humans is actually a muscle, it pumps blood around the body, throughout the blood vessels by rhythmic contractions. The heart, like all mental, cognitive and physiological functions of the body, is controlled by the brain.

Anyone reading this comment thread is going to find reasoned, logical arguments often backed up by suggestions of further reading and links to more information. Versus English’s comments. Even someone who had sympathy for his view at the start of the thread would be questioning it by the end.

Give up whilst your behind, English.

My attention is required elsewhere, on a most important matter.

Consider not my silence a surrender, merely a respite.

‘Old book’? Like ‘The origin of species’, I assume you mean?

As is wilfully distorting facts or distorting them to suit a preconceived argument based on a premise in an old book.

You meant to add that English, I just know you did.

Denying facts is a very foolish thing to do. That I refuse to deny ‘a few’ is possibly evidence that I am not a fool?