Pathetic, snivelling Tories
There are many millions of people in this country – perhaps the majority – who want a return to a more civilised society. Many of them will vote for the ‘Conservative’ Party because they are supposed to conserve traditional values.
But they have allowed themselves to become so intimidated that they barely dare step out of line with the ‘values’ New Labour have developed over the past thirteen years. These are now the ‘values’ the Tories wish to conserve.
I’m talking of course about Chris Graying, who has been recorded in secret saying that B&B owners should have the right to refuse to let out rooms to pairs of homosexuals. Last month, Susanne Wilkinson, a Christian B&B owner in Cookham, Berkshire, was reported to the police for refusing to give a room to two homosexual men because it was “against her convictions”.
This is how the Guardian puts it,
The Tories were embroiled in a furious row over lesbian and gay rights on Saturday after the shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling, was secretly taped suggesting that people who ran bed and breakfasts in their homes should “have the right” to turn away homosexual couples.
Embroiled in a furious row: for daring to value someone’s conscience and property rights over the sexual leanings of others.
The comments, made by Grayling last week to a leading centre-right thinktank, drew an angry response from gay groups and other parties, which said they were evidence that senior figures in David Cameron’s party still tolerate prejudice.
If these ‘gay groups’ were not always looking for individuals to attack, they would cease to exist. Ben Summerskill of Stonewall would be out of his £80,000 a year job. That’s why their demands are becoming increasingly tedious and totalitarian. They have become the bullies. They want the entire country to be run to suit themselves. Real life isn’t like that for any of us.
In a recording of the meeting of the Centre for Policy Studies, obtained by the Observer, Grayling makes clear he has always believed that those who run B&Bs should be free to turn away guests.
“I think we need to allow people to have their own consciences,” he said. “I personally always took the view that, if you look at the case of should a Christian hotel owner have the right to exclude a gay couple from a hotel, I took the view that if it’s a question of somebody who’s doing a B&B in their own home, that individual should have the right to decide who does and who doesn’t come into their own home.”
As any right-minded person would. If I tried to book into a hotel and was told no heterosexuals were allowed because they only allow homosexuals, I would say thanks for the warning and look for another place to stay.
Ben Summerskill, chief executive of the gay rights group Stonewall, said the comments would be “very alarming to a lot of gay people who may have been thinking of voting Conservative”.
Is it important to him that homosexuals vote for the Tories? Why doesn’t he just say: those Tories haven’t changed, so vote Labour or Lib Dem? It is because the Tories must be brought under the pink political umbrella too, hence the attacks on every little deviation from Stonewall’s agenda.
He added: “The legal position is perfectly clear. If you are going to offer the public a commercial service – and B&Bs are a commercial service – then people cannot be refused that service on the grounds of sexuality. No one is obliged to run a B&B, but people who do so have to obey the law. “I don’t think anyone, including the Tories, wants to go back to the days where there is a sign outside saying: ‘No gays, no blacks, no Irish.’”
He’s right. It is the law. One of New Labour’s thousands that have been foisted on us. I would be surprised if anyone has refused a room to black and Irish people for reasons of conscience, but Stonewall jumped on the general equality bandwagon years ago. They now have massive political power partly by confusing ‘gay rights’ with the various other equality issues, some of which address genuine concerns.
Labour said that Grayling’s comments ran contrary to the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2007, which state that no one should be refused goods or services on the grounds of their sexuality.
Grayling voted in favour of the regulations, which apply to the provision of “accommodation in a hotel, boarding house or similar establishment”.
This is the bit which has irked Tom Harris:
So the question Grayling must answer is: why did you vote against what you believe?
Indeed. Maybe there isn’t a politician left who knows what they believe anymore. Back to the Guardian:
Chris Bryant, the Europe minister, who last weekend became the first gay MP to be married in the Commons, said from his honeymoon in Edinburgh: “Anybody who thinks that the Tory party has changed should think what it would be like to have Chris Grayling as home secretary. It is impossible to draw a distinction between bed and breakfasts and hotels. It is very clear that very senior Tories have not realised that the world has moved on.”
Two men on a honeymoon. The world certainly has moved on.
A Conservative spokesperson said last night that Grayling had been clear about the obligations on hotel owners, but declined to be drawn on his views on B&Bs: “Chris Grayling was absolutely clear that in this day and age a gay couple should not be turned away from a hotel just because they are gay couple.”
We’ve had the world has moved on and now in this day and age. I’m waiting for this is the 21st Century. It is funny how people try to justify things simply by the fact we are living now. Many people find that now is not the Utopia they were expecting. They don’t like what is happening today, in this day and age, in the here and now.
The row will alarm David Cameron as he prepares for a general election that looks certain to be called on Tuesday. The Tory leader has gone out of his way to win over gay and lesbian voters by stressing his new-look party’s liberal credentials. Last year, he apologised for section 28, the law passed by Margaret Thatcher’s Tory government in the late 1980s that bans the promotion of homosexuality in schools. Cameron has also voted in favour of civil partnerships.
It’s true. The Conservatives are now liberals. They have even apologised for one of the few things they got right under Thatcherism: Section 28. Ten years ago, 7 out of 8 Scots voted to keep this legislation. That’s not Tory Scots, that’s Scots of all political persuasions – over a million of us – who took part in Brian Souter’s private referendum.
However, his progress in attracting the gay vote has been halted by a series of disputes involving his own MPs and MEPs. Tory MEPs last year refused to support a motion that condemned a new homophobic law in Lithuania.
He should have learned from Souter’s Keep the Clause campaign that he shouldn’t be bothering with the homosexual vote. Lithuania’s new “homophobic” law is their Section 28 to protect youngsters from the homosexual agenda.
Cameron was also left embarrassed during a recent interview with Gay Times, broadcast by Channel 4 News, in which he admitted he did not know his party’s position on a series of votes involving gay rights issues in the UK and European parliaments.
He certainly was left embarrassed. It is impossible to reconcile conservative values and liberal idealism and he got very confused trying to.
Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said: “Chris Grayling’s plan would allow discrimination to thrive, as every bigot was given a licence to opt out of equality rules. These views… show how far the Conservative party still has to travel before reaching the modern age.”
Bingo! It’s the modern age. Well done Huhne, you know how to play the game too. He is also dishonest when he infers that if you allow your conscience to influence your decisions (as opposed to what’s down the front of your Y-fronts) you are a bigot.
The culture secretary Ben Bradshaw, who is openly gay, said: “What is critical at this election is whether David Cameron is for real and whether his party has actually changed. Yet again the mask has slipped.”
The mask has slipped – there is still the odd traditional value sneaking out. Tories now go quickly into damage-limitation mode, when they should be proclaiming loud and clear that they believe that traditional moral values are the only way to turn Britain back into a more civilised place to live.
It looks like we will have a hung parliament. The most disgraceful ‘British’ government, perhaps ever, cannot be flushed clean away in one go because it seems that most people who don’t want New Labour don’t want Cameron’s Tories either.
And why would they?
They quake in their boots and stutter every time they are asked about ‘gay rights’. If Cameron cannot even cope with this, how can we expect him to stand up to the EU and climate change fascists and everyone else who wants to put a collar round Britain to lead us into a global system?
To be blunt, the Tories need to grow a pair. So far, it looks like Ann Widdecombe is the only one who has managed. Most of the others are pathetic, grovelling eunuchs.
Tories: sort yourselves out for the sake of your country.

The fact that this fellow can believe one thing, or say he does, and then vote in an entirely different direction is evidence of one of two things; he is either so cowardly that he dare not openly state his beliefs and is prepared to compromise them when voting, for fear of having his snout removed from the trough; or else he is prepared to vote in a way which best reflects the requests made to him, by his constituents, on these matters, even though he disagrees with them.
I know which one I believe.
PS If the Tories abandoned their ridiculous pursuit of the ‘pink vote’ in favour of the ’straight vote’, they would gain far more than they would lose, in more ways than one.
“If I tried to book into a hotel and was told no heterosexuals were allowed because they only allow homosexuals, I would say thanks for the warning and look for another place to stay.”
Yes, but they weren’t warned were they? Two elderly gentlemen were turned away at 11.30 at night, which in my opinion is rude and dare I say it, un-christian. Have they not heard of Joseph and Mary and no room at the inn?
English,
I know which I believe too.
I’m sure a lot of Tories realise that the party’s obsession with PC is costing them millions of votes. It shows they are being controlled by outside influences to whom the good of the country and individual freedom mean nothing.
Mr Justice,
Of course they weren’t warned. The landlady presumed that it was a heterosexual couple that was coming to stay. They should have been honest when they made the booking. If they couldn’t have found some other place, I would have given the double room to one and put up a camp bed in the dining room for the other.
Stewart,
You have a larger heart than me. They could have slept in the woods for all I would have cared, they would not have been welcome in my house.
English, the woods in your part of the world are mighty cold.
Found this at Old Holborn’s place –
http://www.guyzhotel.com/
This hotel is open ONLY to gay men and they are allowed to advertise the fact. Personally I have no problem with them declaring that their hotel is only open to gay men. Since I’m not gay, I have no interest in going there. I’m not going to visit a business that advertises that I am not welcome.
However, if a hotel advertised ’straight men only’, what would happen?
Those gay men weren’t warned by the B&B about their ‘no gays’ policy because the B&B would have been hauled up for discrimination if they put out any such advertising.
It reminds me of those ‘wimmin’s rights’ lot who demanded the death of men-only clubs but still kept their women-only clubs. The insurer Sheila’s Wheels can advertise that they are for women only but no insurer can advertise that they are for men only.
This is not, by even the most twisted definition possible, equality.
Leg-iron,
Thanks for the link. Blackpool is my favourite town. I haven’t been since 2001, but I used to go once or more every year. I didn’t know there was a ‘gay village’ in the town now. How depressing. It used to be the ideal place for families (well, apart from the weather, sometimes, of course).
I see “Guyz Hotel” denounce other ‘gay friendly’ hotels for allowing heterosexuals in as well. Like you say, they can admit whoever they want – who cares? – so why do they get all upset when someone else has a policy which excludes them? It seems that they alone are allowed to advertise the fact that they discriminate.
The power outside of the State chiefly resides (or resided) with white, heterosexual, middle-class, family men. So they get given no special rights at all in this new ‘equality’ which exists to increase the power of the State.
You can tell the equality industry is a fraud by the fact that so many people used to feel equal to others, but no longer do. “A cat can look at the Queen” as they used to say (no pun intended).
How Homophobic cane someone get, we live in 2010 and the best you can do is troll around websites spreading your sad bitter comments!
It’s 2010 is it? I rather thought it was more like 19th Century BC Sodom and Gomorrah.
What does the date have to do with the need to shed morals?