More on the Bin Laden Hoax

Robbo still believes the official story. He commented on my refusal to believe the (ever changing) White House narrative, “You are totally determined to be as stupid as possible and no evidence will sway you from it. Good going, old bean!”

What is the evidence?

There is no body. No photographs of the body. The videos purporting to be of him are years old.

Do you think an insurance company would pay out on the death of someone whose alleged body was quickly dumped in the sea and whose alleged DNA doesn’t necessarily prove who it was from or when it was taken?

A decade ago, bin Laden was undergoing treatment for serious kidney disease and was on dialysis, yet no life-preserving equipment was found in the house in which he had allegedly been living for years. A house which just happens to be very close to major military installations.

And none of his neighbours claim to ever have set eyes on him.

The only “evidence” we have is the word of US politicians who are known liars.

And I am “stupid” for disbelieving the US Government? Really?

Here are 10 Facts That Prove The Bin Laden Fable Is a Contrived Hoax.

Not only is his death a hoax, but so is al Qaeda.

BBC’s killer documentary called “The Power of Nightmares“. Top CIA officials openly admit, Al-qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice”…

They wanted a bogeyman in the mould of Emmanuel Goldstein in Nineteen Eighty-Four to convince the American people to go along with never-ending wars and to scare them into giving up their rights. That man would be the CIA’s own Osama bin Laden,

Osama bin Laden was a well known, well paid CIA intelligence asset used over a long period by more than one US administration to fight their proxy wars. Originally he was recruited during the end of the Carter administration to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, he was subsequently used and armed to bolster the Muslim cause where it could be applied as a proxy force in civil wars, including Bosnia in the 1990′s.

I believe that the fraud is so obvious that I wonder if it has been deliberately designed that way. I just haven’t worked out why they would make it look so silly and unbelievable.

Maybe their contempt for us has reached that stage, and in a way, who can blame them when so many people will still slavishly believe whatever lies they come out with.

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10 Responses to More on the Bin Laden Hoax

  1. Dilettante says:

    So all the world’s media are simply refusing to acknowledge that Osama Bin Laden is demonstrably a CIA asset? That is a pretty wide-ranging conspiracy theory.

  2. Stewart Cowan says:

    The mainstream media almost always go with official stories. Much of the MSM is either government controlled or run by a very few, very wealthy, individuals, for whom the truth doesn’t necessarily make money.

    Occasionally, the MSM will do the decent thing and investigate beyond the whitewash, e.g. the Daily Mail’s many column inches on trying to get to the truth of the death of Dr David Kelly.

    Part of bin Laden’s job as bogeyman was (and still is) to scare people into accepting whatever the government says. It is therefore necessary to control the media as much as possible. The CIA plants fake “news” stories in the media.

    And people get scared. I know people who believe, like me, that 9/11 was an inside job, but they are scared to admit it in public in case something “happens” to them.

    Stop being scared. Stop being gullible. God gave you brains and the ability to discern (should you wish to use it!).

  3. robbo says:

    Well I am surprised and honoured that you should respond to my comment thus. It was an off the cuff remark which I will now spend some time elaborating upon.
    First of all let me ask a question. What evidence would convince you that Bin Laden really was killed as reported? Photographs? No chance, they can be faked. DNA? No chance, what are you going to do with it? No doubt if you were to get your hands on it and somehow were to conclude that it really was that of Bin Laden you would reject it somehow as having been planted or substituted. Eye-witness accounts? No chance, the eye-witnesses would just become part of the conspiracy. So ask yourself please, why should you expect the U.S. government to jump through hoops to convince people who will never be convinced? A complete and utter waste of time. You have decided that you will believe anything but the official story and nothing will sway you from it.
    This would be be stupid enough but there is more. The alternative sources you have provided are unintelligible, contradictory and nonsensical. One claims he died of kidney failure another lung failure, yet another that he was captured, another murdered, another had a personal opinion that he had died. The list goes on. Just like the list of “possible” methods of bringing down the twin towers when everyone saw in real time what really happened. You can accept anything except what the officials say but can give no comprehensive account of what really happened. You dismiss with a wave of your hand as conspiracy anything that backs up reality and substitute a tangled web of complete bollocks in its place and then you have the utter gall to say everyone else is gullible and admonish us to start using our brains! That is why I say “well done, old bean” you are a card of the highest calibre.
    Here is a simple comprehensive and completely understandable account of what really happened over the last ten years: Bin Laden and chums finance 16 or so fanatics to travel to America, train as airline pilots, hijack planes and fly them into buildings. America responds by attacking Afghanistan who were harbouring Bin Laden at the time and overthrow the Taliban but Bin Laden escapes with the help of his allies to Pakistan where he is kept in secret. Eventually the Americans track him down and kill him. What alternative have you got? A ridiculous tale involving a conspiracy of thousands of people and entire governments and yet they can’t even get the wanted poster right. Anybody who says anything that might cast the smallest shadow of a doubt is held up by you as evidence and the reams and reams of data that shows reality in all its simple glory is just dismissed as conspiracy. The CIA, the media, Al Qaeda, this governments of untold numbers of countries et cetera, et cetera, et cetera all in collusion and yet they can’t even come up with a photograph that you would never believe in a million years anyway because you are so obsessed with your fantasy world.
    Your pesky evidence is a load nonsense, Stuart, please, for the love of Mike take the blinkers off and learn about real evidence. Alex Jones reliable? Good grief, he makes a fortune out of peddling his lies and you are falling for them willingly and perpetuating all his crap and a cursory glance will show him for what he is. You have NO evidence, Stuart. Zero. You make flags in Glasgow.
    Once again I have to commend you, good going, old bean.

  4. robbo says:

    I really do hope you publish my response. It only has a couple of mildly rude words and blasphemy at all and I did spend some considerable time and effort on it.

  5. robbo says:

    * NO * blasphemy at all!

  6. robbo says:

    I do apologise for continually getting your name wrong. Stewart, Stewart, Stewart. Must remember that.

  7. robbo says:

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
    Stewart, whenever I step in bullshit I will think of you.
    I’ve just watched Churchill: the Hollywood Years on BBC1. The Radio Times only gave it two stars but it made me CRY with laughter. I really hope you saw it because it is like what you believe.

  8. Stewart Cowan says:

    Robbo,

    The majority of people seem to spell my name wrongly, so don’t worry about it (like 9/11 and the bin Laden hoax, the truth is hidden in plan sight!).

    And I haven’t had broadcast telly since 2005, so I didn’t see Churchill: the Hollywood Years.

    Now to the meat and potatoes…

    What evidence would convince you that Bin Laden really was killed as reported?

    You dismiss with a wave of your hand as conspiracy anything that backs up reality…

    And reality is what to you? What you are told by government and the MSM. That’s how the people in all police states get their information.

    All we have is the word of liars. I’m shocked that you find this “evidence” enough!

    …what really happened over the last ten years: Bin Laden and chums finance 16 or so fanatics to travel to America, train as airline pilots, hijack planes and fly them into buildings.

    Bin Laden denied involvement and the FBI did not want him for the 9/11 attacks. The flight schools have reported that the men were rubbish at flying, yet they can control large aircraft? Consider especially Flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon and had to be carefully flown to skim the ground for hundreds of yards. Also consider that within minutes, Feds were going round shops and offices confiscating CCTV footage.

    America responds by attacking Afghanistan who were harbouring Bin Laden at the time and overthrow the Taliban but Bin Laden escapes with the help of his allies to Pakistan where he is kept in secret.

    They admit themselves that bin Laden had nothing to do with it!! BUT they wanted a bogeyman, so obviously they wanted people to equate bin Laden with 9/11 because they knew most people are too trusting (that’s a euphemism) to learn the truth.

    As for Pakistan harbouring him – that’s a fairy story, probably concocted to have a reason to invade Pakistan next, who had just ordered US drones out of the country because they kept killing civilians.

    A ridiculous tale involving a conspiracy of thousands of people and entire governments

    The Manhattan Project employed up to 130,000 people. When you compartmentalise the operation, very few people need to know the whole story.

    You make flags in Glasgow.

    I left Glasgow six years ago.

    And what are you that your opinion is worth more than mine? A top-level CIA man, perhaps? Al-CIAda’s “Number Two”?

    I have studied these things for YEARS and not just on Alex Jones’s websites (you’ll find that almost all he says is backed up – if you can be bothered checking). I knew there was something fishy about 9/11 on that very day – years before I even heard of Alex Jones.

  9. robbo says:

    Reality: I will leave you to look up the word in any decent dictionary. That is what it is to me.
    The word of liars: You talk a load of bullshit, Stewart, but that doesn’t mean I won’t come to you if I ever need a flag made. You have to come up with more than “they lied before so they must have caused 9/11″
    Have you ever flown a plane, Stewart? I have and it is easy. You have the ailerons and elevators which are controlled by the yoke, the rudders that are operated by pedals. Additionally you have the throttle lever. Flying straight and level and controlling the aircraft in flight should be possible after no more that 2 hours’ instruction. What you are saying is that a teenager who only learned in a mini couldn’t drive a Rolls Royce through a shop window. Hydraulics is an incredible technology, it means that flying a Boeing is as easy (if not easier) than flying a cessna.
    What does CCTV have to do with it? What is your explanation? It was a missile? So then you have to explain the dozens of signed eyewitness reports that were collected. I know it’s easy for you, they were invalid because they must all have been in on it.
    Who admits that Bin Laden has nothing to do with it? Are you saying the FBI agree with you? If they were in on the conspiracy don’t you think they would have the sense to deny it? WTF?
    Just saying something is a fairy story is ridiculous when there are no fairies in it. The fairies are all in your head, Stewart, and in your story.
    You can not compare the Manhattan Project to your fantasy world even if your fantasies were reality. The Manhattan Project is a historical fact, we know exactly who was invloved, what happened, how much it cost. It was secret but it has been in the public domain for years. Probably ever since the end of the war. Many of those 130,000 people may still be alive, available for comment and will be happy to tell you all about it. What have you got? No witnesses, no evidence, no confessions, just plenty of spew from the fevered imaginings of charlatans and mentaloids.
    My OPINION is not worth more than yours but you have nada to back yours up, I have plenty.
    Your last sentence tells it all. You KNEW immediately what you wanted to believe and ever since then you have done everything you can to confirm your stupidity. I strongly suggest you start questioning yourself for a change.

  10. Stewart Cowan says:

    Robbo, your comment was held for moderation for swearing again. There’s too much sh*t around here lately. I’ll approve this last one!

    There is a world of difference between flying a wee Cesna and a commercial jet. If the hijackers were rubbish at flying the Cesnas, they aren’t going to do too well on the big ones.

    Eyewitnesses report various things, including that it was a missile. The “best” CCTV footage the Pentagon released (after a FoI request) was just 5 frames and they were completely inconclusive. And then there is the matter that the parts of the Pentagon that the wings and tail should have hit were undamaged.

    Who admits that Bin Laden has nothing to do with it? Are you saying the FBI agree with you?

    He was not wanted by the Feds for the crimes. He denied involvement, which is very odd, as he would surely have wanted the “glory”.

    Just saying something is a fairy story is ridiculous when there are no fairies in it. The fairies are all in your head, Stewart, and in your story.

    And what of the hundreds of architects and engineers who have signed up to disagree with the official story? And the many 911 families groups who don’t believe the government? They all have fairies in their head, do they? Don’t you think all these people (and me) WANT the official narrative to be true?

    I was using the Manhattan Project as an example of how a large number of people can be involved in a secret programme.

    What have you got? No witnesses, no evidence, no confessions, just plenty of spew from the fevered imaginings of charlatans and mentaloids.

    Yet again, you don’t know the facts. I told you I have been looking into this for years. Many testimonies were totally ignored when the 9/11 Commission wrote their report. Emergency workers told the public that Building 7 was coming down and there was a count down. The BBC announced the collapse of Building 7 half an hour BEFORE it collapsed. Only three stell-framed skyscrapers have ever completely collapsed due to fire – and all on 9/11.

    My OPINION is not worth more than yours but you have nada to back yours up, I have plenty.

    Your opinion is based on MSM reports and a fraudulent Commission report.

    Your last sentence tells it all. You KNEW immediately what you wanted to believe and ever since then you have done everything you can to confirm your stupidity. I strongly suggest you start questioning yourself for a change.

    No, I decided to see if my instincts were right, and I found pretty compulsive evidence that they were.

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