The Riots, their far-reaching consequences, the blame, the solution

It’s about time I blogged on the rioting. It seems to be quite a complex issue with potentially far-reaching consequences, one of which is the further undermining of the freedom of the internet. Social networking sites were used to organise the rioting and looting and the Met considered shutting down Twitter, but discovered that they didn’t have the power to do so.

It is believed that much of the disorder during three nights of violence in London was orchestrated on sites such as Twitter, which was monitored by the police.

BlackBerry Messenger was also used by youths planning riots. The instant text messaging system cannot easily be monitored by police.

Essex Police apparently had no problem the other day, as they reassure residents they are working to keep county safe.

A 20-year-old man from Colchester who allegedly sent messages from a Blackberry encouraging people to join in a water fight has been charged with encouraging or assisting in the commission of an indictable only offence under the Serious Crime Act 2007. He has been conditionally bailed to appear at Colchester Magistrates’ Court on September 1.

Essex Police officers,

have vowed to take a robust approach to anyone who uses social networking sites to stimulate fictitious rumours.

It reminds me of the jokes on Twitter that landed people in court. Paul Chambers very obviously just pretended that he was going to blow Robin Hood airport “sky high” and Tory Birmingham councillor Gareth Compton requested that someone stone Yasmin Alibhai-Brown to death after her discussion about human rights on Radio 5 Live. They were arrested.

There had been calls from politicians for a Twitter and Facebook blackout during riots. I suppose this seemed easier for MPs than dealing effectively with the problem, having created it in the first place.

So who or what can we pin the blame on for these riots? Most commentators agree that genuine poverty is not the reason. People who are genuinely poor need food, shelter, clothing and fuel, not huge big tellies, designer trainers and even more bling.

Melanie Phillips blames the liberals,

So now the chickens have well and truly come home terrifyingly to roost. The violent anarchy that has taken hold of British cities is the all-too-predictable outcome of a three-decade liberal experiment which tore up virtually every basic social value.

She writes about the liberal intelligentsia’s attack on the family, welfare dependency, the victim culture and human rights, multiculturalism and the shattering of “any attachment to a shared and over-arching culture”

Ms Phillips has a special mention for the Hideous Harman,

One of these ultra-feminist wreckers was Harriet Harman. The other night, she was on TV preposterously suggesting that cuts in educational allowances or youth workers had something to do with young people torching and looting shops, robbing and leaving people for dead in the streets.

But Harman was one of the principal forces in the Labour government behind the promotion of lone parenthood and the marginalisation of fathers. If anyone should be blamed for bringing about the conditions which have led to these appalling scenes in our cities, it is surely Ms Harman.

Historian David Starkey caused shockwaves by suggesting that whites were becoming black. It was a dangerous thing to say in this day and age, but was he being “racist” as so many were quick to claim? Barrister and former Tory MP, Jerry Hayes, wrote,

So the cool analysis that David Starkey was trying to explain, despite the wailings, squeals of outrage and shocked indignation, is this. Many young people have adopted a way of speech and a way of life that is alien to the tolerance and decency that is Britain. It glorifies the workshy, feckless fatherhood, gun crime and drugs. It worships greed and self gratification no matter whom it hurts. If you want further evidence just look at the subliminal messages and popularity of Gangsta Rap.

He makes it sound like another form of liberal ideology: selfish self-indulgence with no real connection or commitment to the community as a whole.

Another Tory MP, Robert Halfon, wrote on his blog,

…moral relativism, moral equivalence, family breakdown and absent fathers, the weakening of social capital (the glue that binds community together), the failure of our education system over decades (a huge proportion of children leave school illiterate) and the glorIfication of the drugs/gang culture have all contributed to this disaster.

In other words, the liberal agenda of the past few governments and that of the controlled “entertainment” industry.

However, Mohammed Abbas and Kate Holton believe that London rioters point to poverty and prejudice.

“It’s us versus them, the police, the system,” said an unemployed man of Kurdish origin in his early 20s, sitting at the entrance to a Hackney housing estate with four Afro-Caribbean friends who nodded in agreement.

“They call it looting and criminality. It’s not that. There’s a real hatred against the system,” he added, listing what he saw as the police prejudice, discrimination and lack of opportunity that led him and his friends to loot shops, torch bins and hurl missiles at police Monday.

Is this what multiculturalism and political correctness have delivered? Well, I don’t think it ever was about equality, but divide and conquer.

“There’s two worlds in this borough. More and more middle classes are coming and we’re being pushed out. The shops are pricing stuff like it’s the West End, we can’t afford the rents. We’re the outcasts, we’re not wanted any more.

“There’s nothing for us.”

Are these genuine reasons for complaint or unacceptable excuses for those exaggerated tantrums in the streets?

Is this bad feeling between the “poor” and the middle classes yet another front in the divide and conquer war?

One of the knee-jerk reactions has been the serving of eviction notices to rioters who live in council houses. The first was in Wandsworth, but it was the son who was charged with breaking the law, not the tenant. This sounds as unjust to me as the looters ruining a man’s business. But when natural justice has been compromised to such an extent to accommodate the beliefs of others, political and religious, confusion was bound to reign.

What is the answer? If the problems we face as a society stem from the postwar liberal agenda and the socialists’ anti-family agenda and the divisive multicultural and political correct agendas then clearly these things must be rejected forthwith, because they have not brought the promised freedom or peace – that was just an illusion to get as all on board, but the reality is what we see today – a country in crisis – people without direction and little hope; broken families and fragmented communities; desperation dealt with through alcohol misuse and prescrption and illicit drug use.

Being tough on crime is important, but so is grabbing these failed, highly destructive ideologies by the scruff of the neck and throwing them into the depths of the ocean.

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26 Responses to The Riots, their far-reaching consequences, the blame, the solution

  1. “Being tough on crime is important.”

    I think they’re being deranged on crime at the moment. Six months for stealing a bottle of water? Normally a shoplifter would get a caution for that.

  2. Subrosa says:

    Excellent post Stewart.

  3. English Viking says:

    Stewart,

    You forgot to mention the continual ridiculing, marginalising and debasement of Christianity as a causal factor.

    There really is no way back now. it’s too late. The measusres needed to restore sanity will never be implemented. I used to think our only hope was to be invaded by a decent country, who would install a dictatorship to restore sanity.

    But there aren’t any decent countries left.

  4. No EV, the hour is very late but I cannot agree that it has yet become too late. Since you’re given up why don’t you do us all a favour and disappear somewhere so that those of us have haven’t given up don’t have to be discouraged by you? Poor old Stewart had a wobbly and was for giving up earlier this year until he pulled himself together again; the last thing he needs is your whinging. Your false claim that it’s too late is a denial of the sovereignty of God and His power to raise up good government and lead this nation back to Him in repentance. The impossible is possible with God, and He often manifests His power through a weak remnant. As a Christian and a political activist in 2011 Britain, I see myself as ‘down but not out’… I’m going to get up, beat the count, and come back to win the fight. God is well able to transform Broken Britain in to a Great Britain pleasing to Him.

  5. English Viking says:

    Carvath,

    You’re delusional again. Either take another tablet or stop taking them, I don’t know which.

    Read Your Bible – things are not going to get better. It’s idiotic Christians like you who think that they have magic powers and God favours them highly that cause a lot of false hope and ultimately disappointment in the gullible, when your ridiculous hyperbole fails to come to pass.

    You are not a political activist, you are not even a Parish Councillor. I wouldn’t trust you to be a milk monitor. God has not told you research porn sites or prostitutes or brothels. He has not told you that you will become an MP. Grow up.

    BTW It’s not really your place to ask me to leave someone else’s house. If Stewart no longer wishes my presence, he need only say the word and I’ll go. Mind your own business. But that’s the problem with dopey evangelicals/charismatics (O, the irony of involving you and charisma in the same sentence), isn’t it? They think they’ve got they’re own lives so perfectly in tune with God, they gee themselves up through a bit of tambourine bashing, singing raucous ‘rock hymns’ and prancing around like a man demented, then attempt to cure everyone else’s problems, interfering and busy-bodying, thinking more highly of themselves than they ought. They are more than a small part of the reason that some think Christianity is for lefties and fruitcakes. Before I became a Christian, if I had thought that becoming one would mean that I had to be like you, it would have been a big stumbling block.

    I notice you don’t mind talking to me here, but refuse to do so on your own narcissistic pile of drivel you laughingly call a blog.

  6. English Viking says:

    Hey Stewie,

    Cat got your tongue?

  7. I seriously doubt your claim to be a Christian EV. I’m not against politically-active Christians being satirical but the tone has to be right. That diabolical nonsense from you above does not strike me as being the work of a Christian wit.

    Your grasp of scripture is poor. Things will get worse but there is still THE END to come – which is really a new beginning – and the victory has already been won by Christ at Calvary. Furthermore, in the sovereignty of God the Holy Spirit still manifests here or there as God wills (even during the dark times to come under the antichrist).

    You were published on my blog. You chose to go off in a sulk when you found you could not dominate or outwit a superior intellect.

    Your attitude is all wrong for a Christian. Perhaps you are a Christian but are just in some serious and prolonged period of spiritual depression. Perhaps you are backslidden. Perhaps you sincerely believe you are a Christian but in truth you have never surrendered your life to Christ. I don’t know what it is with you, but I just know something about you isn’t right for someone claiming to be a Christian.

    You have to die to self and live Christ every day.

    I hate defeatest attitudes in Christians. It’s completely un-Christian. The power of the Cross for victorious living is available today. The power of the resurrection is available today. God’s power is available only on His terms but it is there for us to receive if we are willing to surrender at the cross, stop living in our own human strength and start living in the resurrection power of Christ.

    God is well able to transform the UK if He wills it, prior to or even during the final days of the end times.

    I renounce your curse on my life and I reject your assessment of me. I will continue to pursue a seat in Parliament; I hope to be an MP – and a good one; by the grace of God it can and will happen.

    EV you should take all your bitterness, pain, defeat and sin to the Cross and exchange it for the victory of Christ living in you. Make your peace with God and get right with Him today.

  8. English Viking says:

    We seek him here, we seek him there, we Christians seek him everywhere.

    Is he in Heaven? Is he in Hell? That damned elusive pimpernel.

    Where and why are you, Richard?

    PS Stewie,

    It is a incivility to ignore a visitor. However barbaric.

  9. English Viking says:

    Richard,

    I note you think yourself adept at the Scriptures, yet quote not a single one.

    The reason for my anonymity is simple; there are weirdos and nut-jobs on the net that I would not wish to have to deal with in the flesh, even though I am more than able. You are living proof.

    I have a wife, children, numerous other dependents that I would not wish to expose to danger. You surely must understand? Perhaps you’ll call me a coward. Perhaps you’ll do it once too often?

    I notice you think me unlearned. If you wish to engage in a battle of scripture, I’m game. I also notice that you quote none, so far.

    Really, not even Wiki will help you if you wish to engage, but I’m more than willing, you false prophet.

    Richard, get help. Your ‘Pastor’ might be able to help. Tell him you are hearing voices. Tell him you are destined for grandeur. Tell him that those who doubt you are infidels.

    Tell him you are mentally ill.

    PS I’m not really anonymous. No matter how much he may now dislike me, Stewart knows full well who I am, where I live, my e-mail addo, etc, etc. It’s just that I’d rather not have to explain a cross-bow bolt through the throat of an intruder, because I put my full name and address up.

    You suffer no such sadnesses. You are a loner. Not many, except God, Stewie and me, care for you.

  10. English Viking says:

    BTW

    I can’t prove it, and that’s the way he likes it, but Carvath deleted numerous posts of mine on his own ‘blog’, to make things appear differently than they actually are.

    Now I am permanently banned. He cannot compete with scripture.

    He is a liar.

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, he is a mentally ill, delusional liar.

    Stewart is quiet because, IMHO, he agrees with this barbarian (me), but will not show it because being harsh is, to his mind, un-Christian. He thinks I should frame my words in a cloud, be softer, try and ‘love’ the man, whatever that means.

    I say what I see, and I mean what I say.

    Stewie – You’ll notice that the above is expletive free. All my future posts will be so, but I cannot guarantee that they will not cut.

    I’d be most grateful if you’d let them through.

    As I said – If you wish me to leave, just say so.

  11. English Viking says:

    Hey Richard,

    I await your response.

    I assume that you are most fastidiously investigating some pornography or other.

    It is Friday, after all.

    Suits you Sir!

  12. You lie EV. You are not now and never have been banned from my blog. You chose to go off in a huff.

    I know it can be off-putting for people to have to wait for their comment to be published on my blog but that’s the way I administer my blog and it’s the same for everyone. I’m afraid I can’t countenance instantly-published-without-prior-approval comments on threads on my blog and there are good reasons for that policy; people just have to have a little patience and comments are okayed periodically when I log in.

    You continue to hurl ridiculous insults at me; I refer you back to the advice I gave you in my previous comment… surrender your self at the Cross, die to self, receive the Holy Spirit, live Christ.

    Good night.

  13. English Viking says:

    Richard,

    Still no scripture, just plastic platitudes.

    You are a liar. You edited, else deleted my posts at your place to attempt to make me mean what I did not say. I invited you to come to Stewarts, as I think him much less of a ****, but you refused.

    I think the best thing, to avoid all the bullsh*t, (See how I avoided it, Stewie?) is to meet face to face.

    Then there can be no extrapolations, no interpolations, no insinuations, no fabrications, no tosh.

    Really, I’ll meet you in the field. And I’m more than happy to make you feel, and look, small.

    You haven’t got the faintest clue what you are talking about.

    If I were Samurai, your head would be lolling in the mud by now.

    How dare you approach me?

  14. English Viking says:

    Oh, what a joy to be born noble.

    Twice the thrill that a man is not Carvath.

  15. English Viking says:

    I suggest that most will forgive the bad syntax above, when one realises that a foreigner speaks?

    If Carvath-san wishes to draw swords, his wish would be like the wind.

  16. English Viking says:

    Consider the dawn, Carvath-san. So cold. So quiet.

    Every moment of a life, in a single sun-beam?

    All violence, all tranquility, compressed in the moment?

    Behold the Sun.

    Without it, you’re dead.

  17. Stewart Cowan says:

    Michael,

    “Deranged” is a good word!

  18. Stewart Cowan says:

    Subrosa,

    Thank you.

  19. Stewart Cowan says:

    English,

    Naturally, the abandonment of our Judeo-Christian heritage is the main factor. I tried describing the actual symptoms.

  20. Stewart Cowan says:

    Richard,

    I think we will be judged on whether we give up or not. I don’t have much hope for this country, but while God gives strength to His people there is hope still.

  21. English Viking says:

    Stewie,

    There is always a chance, when God is involved, but is He?

    Is it not possible that He has given GB over to its darkened mind?

    I have not given up in the sense that I think God impotent. I have merely accepted the blatantly obvious – GB is way past the point of repentance, as a nation, and the judgement of God hangs heavy over the land.

    I genuinely believe (please don’t call me a Breivik, because I’m not) that for real, serious change to happen, thousands must be silenced, permanently. How will the next PM learn decency, have moral fibre, value truth above money and be a shining example of human rectitude unless the last (at least) 6 are shot for treason?

    How will the people learn, unless their leaders set a proper example? There is not one MP, not a single one, that I should like to emulate. Don’t start me off on HM – how can she be ‘The defender of the faith’ when she removes her shoes, puts a filthy rag on her head and pays obeisance to a demon of a death cult?

    Add in the poisonous bile spewed by the BBC, all the other crap that you mention, and what chance is there, without a violent revolution?

    None.

    Believe me, it’s going to get worse. Much, much worse.

  22. Stewart Cowan says:

    English,

    The state of the UK reminds me of the Cities of the Plain when Abraham kept asking The Almighty to spare them according to the number of righteous. As I said, I don’t have much hope for this country, but I still think it falls on the faithful who remain to do something.

    And you know I want traitors dealt with appropriately, a) as due punishment and b) as a warning to others not to mess with the British people again.

    The Queen has let us down badly. Defender of what? Neither the faith nor the country.

    Would you say that I should give up here and move somewhere which is (now) more safe and civilised in comparison?

  23. English Viking says:

    That’s a decision only you can make Stewie. I did, but it was mostly because I have children. I don’t know your situation well enough to say one way or the other.

    I give it serious consideration if I were you.

  24. English Viking says:

    Richard,

    I notice that you think that I have attempted to curse you.

    I have done no such thing, nor would I.

    I’ll make a bet with you. I bet you will never, ever become an MP, and if I lose, I’ll parade naked in Parliament square brandishing a sign which say ‘Carvath for PM’.

    If you lose, you’ll owe me 50p.

    What do you say?

  25. I say you’re so small-minded EV… you need to be thinking much bigger for your bet.

    Nobody seriously disputes that one day I will be an MP.

    The only question really worth asking is whether or not I’ll be PM.

  26. English Viking says:

    Richard,

    Stop it. You’re not going to become an MP. Not unless you manage to qualify as a PPC for the Labour Party, on the grounds of your mental disability.

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